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gia
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 12:11 pm    Post subject: Adrain dissed in Washington Times article re: Labor Issues  

Ouch - read the whole thing titled
Being strong, invincible -- and awfully dumb here:
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20020614-617427.htm

"Adrain Williams, who plays with the Phoenix Mercury, is no threat to succeed Alan Greenspan.
"We don't want to bankrupt the league," she says. "We just want to get our share, period. If the league is going to fold, it is going to fold. But at least pay us what we're worth."
She can't be serious. Pay her what she is worth? What is less than nothing worth?"
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 11:16 pm    Post subject: My email to Washing Times, titled: Not Knott  

The article

Being strong, invincible -- and awfully dumb
By Tom Knott

is in poor taste, abusive and misleading.

Adrain Williams can play basketball much better than Alan Greenspan can chair the Fed.

How did you like paying 10X what stocks were worth during the credit bubble AG pumped? Not as well as you did seeing them being sold for 20X, and you didn't? Now that they only sell for 3X what they're worth, how do you like AG? Just wait until the bid is only for half what they're worth. What will Tom's 401K be worth then?

AG is the worst Fed Chairman we have ever suffered, and that is saying something. AG is still credit pumping to save mismanaged financial institutions by suckering in more Jack&Jill6pacs that can be fleeced in the next dumping of sell-side inventory. The crooks will get liquid, & buy up defaulted assets at bargain prices.

NCAA & WNBA women's basketball is a pleasure to watch, compared to the unsporting, egomanic NBA.

Articles like Tom's are shameful. I will remember not to bother reading his articles in the future.

Sincerely irate am I,
Bob

To gia et al: Now you know why I am a bear. :wink:
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Vladimir Taltos
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 7:33 am    Post subject: Yes and no...  

Picking on her for her Greenspan comments are probably over the top, but the reality is that this league is in a start up mode. If the players start going big-headed, striking and asking for the moon now, the league will fold. Then Adrain's comments about "if it folds it folds" will seem as foolish as they are...the players have to take a self-interest in not killing the golden goose. It would be wonderful to see them successful and have the opportunity to make millions. The reality is w/5000 people attending the games, that is NOT going to happen. It takes time, patience and wokr to grow a new sport's interest, which women's hoops at the pro level is. PLEASE get your head(s) out and think about the LONG vs. SHORT term in all this, players. How many options do you all have if the league folds? Europe for some and low income jobs for many others, (not all, but many). This gig pays 40-100k as a swag for 4 months a year of work. Not many of us 9-5 stiff can say we draw our salaries for 4 months of work. And you have other options above and beyond that. And let's not forget the idea of growing this for your own future or at the least the next generation of women's players...something that probably is more important then other issues. Had to get that off my chest...the idea of a strike or whatever just sticks in my throat and the attitude displayed is what could lead to that...

VT
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 8:21 am    Post subject:  

I find it interesting the players are getting ripped for even mentioning the word "strike". I doubt it will happen but if the WNBA does not want to change anything about the current system (unlikely but let's get hypothetical), does this mean the player's union should just accept it meekly? I don't think the strike will happen but it must be mentioned as a possibility.
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 8:33 am    Post subject:  

I know they get paid caca but what about a more evenly distributed pay scale?

For discussion's sake: no "stars" being paid more than anyone else with the same years in the league. Just a thought, the numbers are probably off but it makes more sense to have everyone sacrifice as much as everyone else. Sweat equity with bonuses after 5 years in the league or something.

1st year - 35K
2nd year - 50K
3rd year - 65K
etc etc

10K a month is not a bad paycheck for someone out of college is it? I'd be thrilled to work 3 months a year at my main job and then have 9 months to work elsewhere if needed/desired. Everyone should be free to pursue their own sponsorship deals.
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:04 am    Post subject:  

It is, or could be, about more then just money, but the national media with their tunnelvision is using one word, Strike, and one issue, more money, to make these women look foolish.

I think the players will be smart enough to take a small, almost token raise but redistribute the money, then argue for issues like the endorsement deals.
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